And it encourages you to not color outside the lines if you pay too much attention to what you expect that fan base wants from you. But when you've been around for a while and you've created, essentially, a brand, that has a certain level of expectation. You know, I still think in terms of album formats: collections of songs and how they relate to each other and how they integrate and tell a bigger story than what's contained in each little four-minute parcel. That certainly wasn't anything that crossed my mind when I was working on this. You're saying, though, that's ignoring what's really going on in this song? I'm sure you know there was a disgruntled fan who thought this was entirely too poppy - maybe a softer, happier side of Trent Reznor - and put together an animated video of you riding a unicorn under a rainbow with birds flying by. This song does start out in such a sunny way, with all these joyful harmonies. I think many, many artists have suffered an artistic death by doing just that. When you've been around for a while and you've created, essentially, a brand, that has a certain level of expectation. I feel very fortunate that I've been able to achieve those things, and there have been moments of feeling good about it, but it didn't fix things, you know? It wasn't the solution to me feeling spiritually complete or whole.
You know, if I could just get a record deal, or if I could just be onstage in front of people I'd never seen before and be validated by them. If there's something broken inside me, if there's a hole in there, I thought if I could just write a good song someday, then I'd be OK. My life has been many examples of shortsighted goals that I thought would fix things. And by the end of the song, when it doesn't resolve as nice and rosy with me running through a field of dandelions, clouds come over and there's a sense of getting what you asked for. You know, it's an arrogant, bold statement that might appear defiant but is actually, in my opinion, kind of self-destructive. Yeah, I meant that song to feel kind of absurd. And in the course of the song you say, "I've become something else." "I survived everything." I think? I haven't listened to it for a few days. I'm thinking about your new song "Everything," which starts with this really kind of triumphant declaration? What's the first line of that song? Hear the radio version at the audio link, and read more of their conversation below. He recently spoke with Block about reacting to criticism, working with Lindsey Buckingham and the reasons he thinks opening for Guns N' Roses in Germany was a big mistake. The new Nine Inch Nails album, Hesitation Marks, ends a hiatus that Reznor announced in 2009 - and, as he tells NPR's Melissa Block, he sees the new record in part as a reaction to his earlier self. Today, Reznor's dark days of alcohol and drug abuse are behind him - and he finds himself, at 48, with a wife and two young kids. From his band's genesis 25 years ago, the leader of Nine Inch Nails has been known for songs of deep, menacing pain, rage and self-destruction. Trent Reznor is known as a detail guy: a meticulous composer and manipulator of sound, layers upon layers of it.
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